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I'd like some advice on Igor Wakhévitch - Donc....
This release is one box set containing 6 reissued albums, so I created the format like this:
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
Boxset
All Media, Limited Edition
The reason for doing so is because I interpret the format "6XCD, Album" as being one album that is spread over 6 discs.
Is the format correct or should it be "6XCD, Album, Reissue"? -
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jmoortga
6XCD, Album, Reissue
Personally I would have entered it like this, but wait on some more responses. -
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Let's assume you interpret that "6XCD,Album" means 6 times an Album.
What would you do with Steve Roach - The Dreamtime Box ?
This is a boxset that hosts 3 albums, comes in 3 jewel cases but has 4 CD's: one album is released on a double CD, so putting "4XCD, Album" would be wrong because that would mean 4 times an album (which it is not).
If you do it like this:
2 x CD, Album, Remastered
CD, Album
CD, Album
it's clear from the format that you have 3 albums and 4 CD's.
I used the same logic for Igor Wakhévitch - Donc.... -
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jmoortga
it's clear from the format that you have 3 albums and 4 CD's
Sounds very logical, yes!
It's not an album consisting of 4 CDs but, as you've said, 3 albums consisting of 2 + 1 + 1 CDs! -
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Just some existing examples, that came to my mind, not all follow the same logic:
Depeche Mode - The Complete Depeche Mode -
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Plenty more examples of single-line entry on this list:
Madonna - CD Single Collection?
I get the interpretation of 6xCD, Album possibly implying a single 6-disc album, but the reality becomes evident when one looks at the release page. -
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seppuku
Madonna - CD Single Collection
I can imagine that using CD, CD, CD ... (40 times) for this is not very practical.
The thing is that amount+medium and tags have a 1-1 relationship, if the tags would be divorced from the medium you could write something like:
6XCD, 6XAlbum
or
170XCD, 168XAlbum, 1XCompilation, 1XCD-Rom
But than you have a problem with interpreting "4XCD, 3XAlbum" because that can mean 3 albums of which one is released as double CD or it could also mean 3 albums released as single CD and one CD without a (album) tag ...
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jmoortga
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
Boxset
All Media, Limited Edition
This would look a bit odd in this format: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Complete Works = L'Oeuvre Intégrale = Gesamtwerk
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I think the format should be taken to be a abbreviated statement of what the release contains, not necessarily a rigid formula.
In this case, I think "6 X CD, Album" is more concise, and can be expanded on in the notes if desired. -
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Internaut
This would look a bit odd in this format
I fully agree - that's what I referred to in the post above yours.
nik
think "6 X CD, Album" is more concise
But what do you do with a case like this: Steve Roach - The Dreamtime Box?
As said earlier, this is a boxset containing 3 jewel cases, 4 CD's and 3 albums. Following your advice that should become 4XAlbum - but that's incorrect to me because 4XAlbum can mean one album spread over 4 CD's or 4 albums.
nik
what the release contains
There is a difference between the physical contents (the amount of CD's) and the "musical contents" (the amount of albums, compilations, ...). Currently these two are tight together in a 1-1 relationship. You cannot say "4XCD, 3XAlbum" for instance. -
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Mop66
Just some existing examples, that came to my mind, not all follow the same logic:
Depeche Mode - The Complete Depeche Mode
This example does follow the same logic as the topic starter
nik
I think the format should be taken to be a abbreviated statement of what the release contains, not necessarily a rigid formula.
So should this example be changed to a single format line as well? I think the way it's currently entered is actually very clear. -
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jmoortga
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
Boxset
All Media, Limited Edition
seems logical of course, but it looks bad on the artist or label page. I find 6 X CD, Album looks better. -
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I would keep out the "Album" tag altogether and add "Compilation", since it's all or mostly previously-released material. -
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brunorepublic
I would keep out the "Album" tag altogether and add "Compilation"
yes and no, the boxset is a COMPILATION of 6 previously released ALBUMS (was written like this at the time of release)
Therefor the Album-tag should stay and Compilation should goMop66
To the Boxset line!
Kater_Murr
I find 6 X CD, Album looks better.
But how do you read this? To put it mathematical: does it say "(6XCD), Album " or "6X(CD, Album)"?
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My vote goes to:
6 x CD, Reissue
Box Set, Compilation, Limited Edition -
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jmoortga
yes and no, the boxset is a COMPILATION of 6 previously released ALBUMS (was written like this at the time of release)
Therefor the Album-tag should stay and Compilation should go
??:
"Compilation
..
6.16.4. The tag can be used when the release is two or more previously available releases packaged together."
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it doesn't say you cannot use the Album tag, does it? -
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jmoortga
it doesn't say you cannot use the Album tag, does it?
Yes, you can use both. Album to the CDs and Compilation to the Boxset. Where is the issue? -
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Ha now I see ... my initial sentence should read "Therefor the Album-tag should stay and Compilation should go "To the Boxset line!" (<- quoted froom Mop66) :) -
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jmoortga
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
CD, Album, Reissue
Boxset
or
jmoortga
6XCD, Album
can we please have a final decision for futher updates?
some examples: Dead Can Dance - I: Dead Can Dance ✦ Garden Of The Arcane Delights ✦ Spleen And Ideal ✦ John Peel Session 19.11.1983
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muntz
can we please have a final decision for futher updates?
"Reissue" is no more, so… We can start the discussion all over again. :P -
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Is there Collection in the drop-down menu? If not, i think we need it, this is clearly a "collection" of albums by an artist.
otherwise
nik
In this case, I think "6 X CD, Album" is more concise, and can be expanded on in the notes if desired.