• lawdypapa geändert about 10 hours ago
    Although the term "Big Band" is commonly used in recent decades to describe Jazz Orchestras, that term does not appear to have been used in the 1930s and 1940s golden era of that genre.
    Originally the used were usually "Dance Band / Orchestra" or "Swing Band / Orchestra".
    Afterall, a large orchestra was often the 'standard' sized band at that time, so they probably weren't regarded as being "big" relative to the other bands.

    My question is: when did the term "Big Band" (as a noun) actually come into use?
    The earliest examples that I can find on vinyl are two records both from 1954:
    "Count Basie Big Band" (Clef EP-195) and "Charlie Parker Big Band" (Clef MG C-609).
    The term seemed to get increasing usage from the mid-1950s onwards.
    It seems to me that the term "Big Band" only came into use in the era when most bands were now small bands.

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    Perhaps they started using this term after the 1940s or 1950s as a way to describe the music. In fact, many 78 rpm records use foxtrot as a genre label, especially when the record companies didn’t quite know how to categorize the style.

    Then, in the 1950s, the term big bands was used for music that resembled those classic large ensembles, even though the actual bands were often much smaller.

    Just a thought...

  • lawdypapa geändert about 10 hours ago
    Thanks for your thoughts, Andrew.
    The thing is that the term "Big Band" (as a noun) is now commonly used retrospectively.
    Discogs themselves uses the term as a genre title.
    However, it seems to be a similar situation to use of the term "Doo wop" to describe vocal harmony groups. Also, apparently use of the term "Western Swing" in Hillbilly and Western music was also from a bit later (circa 1945 is the earliest I have seen).
    The apparently were not used at the time, but in later decades have become the commonly accepted .
    Technically the "Big-Band' and "Doo Wop" are historically incorrect because they are retrospective only. Using those is, in a way, a bit of a 'revisionist' approach to music history.

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    To be fair, a lot of genre names and even more music style descriptions are applied retrospectively. However, in this case, I tend to agree that "Big Band" isn't really a genre or even useful as a style name. If we take just Sun Ra as an example, he made pretty much all styles of jazz (and some non-jazz) with big bands.

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