Duke Bootee – The Message
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Sugar Hill Records – SH-584 |
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Vinyl
, 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single
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US |
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Hip Hop |
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Tracklist
A | The Message (Vocal) | 7:11 | |
B | The Message (Instrumental) | 7:11 |
Companies, etc.
- Published By – Sugar Hill Music Publishing Ltd.
- Recorded At – Sweet Mountain Studios
- Phonographic Copyright ℗ – Sugar Hill Records Ltd.
- Copyright © – Sugar Hill Records Ltd.
- Mastered At – Sterling Sound
Credits
- Producer – Sylvia Inc.*
- Written-By – S. Robinson*
Notes
Sugar Hill Music Publ. Ltd. (BMI)
© ℗ 1982 Sugar Hill Records Ltd.
© ℗ 1982 Sugar Hill Records Ltd.
Barcode and Other Identifiers
- Matrix / Runout (Side A runout groove, etched): VID-235-A
- Matrix / Runout (Side B runout groove, etched): VID-235-B
- Matrix / Runout (Side A runout groove, stamped): STERLING
- Matrix / Runout (Side A label): (VID-235-A-19)
- Matrix / Runout (Side B label): (VID-235-B-19)
- Rights Society: BMI
Other Versions (5 of 67)
View AllTitle (Format) | Label | Cat# | Country | Year | |||
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The Message (12", 45 RPM) | Sugar Hill Records | SHL 117 | UK | 1982 | |||
The Message (7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo) | Sugar Hill Records | 6.13 611, 6.13611 AC | 1982 | ||||
The Message (12", Single, 33 ⅓ RPM, Limited Edition) | Sugar Hill Records | 310953 | 1982 | ||||
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The Message (12", 45 RPM) | Sound Of Scandinavia | SOS M-1131 | Sweden | 1982 | ||
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The Message (7", 45 RPM, Single, Large Centre Hole) | Sugar Hill Records | SH 117 | UK | 1982 |
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Reviews
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One of the most important tracks in the history and development of the hip hop genre, and the best part?
Not only can you nab this for cheap, but this sucker is cut LOUD. This 12” sounds louder than some of the early jazz albums I have.
Buy it, and bring the house down! -
Buyer Beware: there’s a few bogus items listed for sale here, but the one I specifically want to warn you about is the apparent U.K. 7” white label with penned markings including a red A. This is completely bogus. How do I know?
Well, I was 13 years old when this record was released and the place I grew up in happened to be the same place that the U.K. publishing company for all Sugar Hill releases was based, and my neighbour worked for that company. That particular company was on the verge of going out of business, and said neighbour knowing that I was into music at the time gave me a whole load of records including the 7” promo copy of the message distributed to all the record shops complete with the promotional paperwork from the distributor PRT, which I still have. The label is as bare as a baby’s arse, and the run-out etchings are a giveaway also. Don’t know what this seller is trying to foist upon unsuspecting buyers but I can assure you it ain’t the real McCoy. As usual discogs couldn’t care less, I’m tired of the consumerist bull I keep seeing on this site. Anyway, buyer beware! -
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Edited 11 years agoInterviews by Caroline Sullivan
The Guardian, Monday 27 May 2013 17.18 BST
Jiggs Chase, co-producer
One night, I was over at [rapper] Ed Fletcher's house and I said: "We need to write something." He was lying on the couch smoking a t with one leg over the edge, and he said: "Don't push me, 'cos I'm close to the edge, I'm trying not to lose my head." And I said: "Oh my goodness – whoa!" We knew he'd just come up with the hook for a song.
Sylvia Robinson [head of Sugar Hill, Grandmaster Flash's label] had this concept of The Message: she wanted a serious song to show what was happening in society, but hadn't been able to get it together. So we told her what we had and added: "It sounds like a hit." Then all we had to do was come up with some music and write the verses. Ed did all that except for writing the final one, which was done by Melle Mel: he was the only member of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five who actually had anything to do with the song, even though the band got the credit. Melle was the best rapper in the group, too, but Ed still had to show him how to do it. "You should rap on it, too!" Sylvia said. And he did.
I knew we had something. I knew it would make some noise. But I didn't know it would be quite so big. Ed was talking about what was happening out there. Rap was music for boasting and bragging, but he took it in another direction. He took a chance – and it broke the mould. The Message got hip-hop taken seriously. There were always lots of rap groups, but they couldn't get record deals. The Message also helped hip-hop get a white audience. In Europe, we had more of a white audience than a black one.
The song went up the charts and, since then, the cheques have gotten bigger, because people keep using it. It was used in Happy Feet, P Diddy used it, and Ice Cube. I'm still getting paid.
The neighbourhood I was living in, the things I saw – it was like a jungle sometimes in Elizabeth, New Jersey. Even though we lived in a nice area, I'd sit in the living room and watch things happening across the street in the park. The lyrics were sort of cinematic: I tried to hold a message up to society.
Rappers then were in their late teens and made feelgood, upbeat songs to party to, so this was completely new. Luckily, Sylvia had the force and foresight to put it out. Grandmaster Flash himself wasn't on the song. He didn't think people wanted to hear that shit. Melle Mel was so mad about that.
Musically and lyrically, I wanted to do something different. A lot of thought went into it. I used to call it trance music – the melody has an asymmetric structure, but the bassline stays the same throughout. Usually, a song has one hook and verses, but "Don't push me, 'cos I'm close to the edge" is one hook and "It's like a jungle sometimes" is another. At the time, I was listening to Brian Eno's My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, so I used a lot of electronic effects and percussion sounds.
The first inkling I had that it would be big was when we did the mix. Sylvia was into numerology, and The Message ran to seven minutes and 11 seconds, which she thought was lucky for some reason. "I have a feeling about this," she said. That night, she took it to Frankie Crocker, the main radio DJ in New York, and the next day it was on the air. Eleven days later, it went gold. Rolling Stone named it the No 1 hip-hop record of all time. I've always thought: "Shit, if I'd known what it was going to do, I'd have kept it for myself."
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