[DONE] Requesting some removal votes

Hi guys,

As some commenters have pointed out, I probably should have made a thread about this before committing to this mass removal. I've recently put up a handful of web-distributed DJ mixes by mostly bedroom/twitch DJ's as they are unlicensed mixes, are distributed as files on soundcloud and other such places, and most of these are submitted by someone who is banned from submitting and has a history of mass submitting junk releases like some fan favorites like Ninja McTits releases among many thousands of other submissions. Now the Ninja McTits releases are questionable of course, but still count as music and are eligible. However, it's always been my understanding that random DJ mixes by random DJs on soundcloud and what not are generally agreed as not eligible for submission to the database.

I'll go into general reasoning on why these are unofficial and specific reasoning per mix if I feel it's necessary, and this is in no way a criticism of the quality of these mixes or the DJs that made these mixes, but the general reasoning behind these removal requests:

- These are all by relatively low profile DJs, playing a vast mix of high profile happy hardcore and hardcore tracks from various big name labels. This alone should be a big enough red flag that there are no licenses obtained for these mixes, as no low profile DJ would be able to fund the licensing costs for this for just random weekly bedroom mixes.
- These are all distributed via soundcloud, or ed by the submitter to mega.nz or hosted on their own website.
- These are not distributed as parts of an official release series, just various mixes from various twitch live shows and bedroom DJ mixes.
- Many of the labels are no longer active, are defunct, or don't license out tracks for copyright reasons.

History of Happy Hardcore
https://discogs.librosgratis.biz/release/23364344-Euphonic-Fuzion-1st-Birthday-Hard-House-Vinyl-Mix---DJ-Beef/history#latest

These mixes are part of twitch live shows by History of Happy Hardcore. These are all ed to soundcloud after the weekly saturday broadcast or random twitch broadcasts whenever this DJ felt like DJ'ing. There are probably more than hundred different labels showcased in these mixes, among them big names like https://discogs.librosgratis.biz/release/23058959-Megacursed-Digital-Offline-0001/history#latest

These have all been removed from soundcloud already, but are still listenable on youtube if you search the name. They all have the tracklist available on the youtube descriptions, and apart from a track here or there that mega_cursed himself made, they're all tracks ranging from 20 years ago to today, and from different artists and labels from different countries that generally do not license them out in any official capacity (succh as tracks by USAO, DJ Sharpnel or Loctek), or the label is defunct.

DJハルウララ(アニメ版)
https://discogs.librosgratis.biz/release/23481137-Serenade-Mad-Breaks-1st-Anniversary-Discord-Event/history#latest

Same as with the mega_cursed mixes. These are bedroom DJ mixes, often for no specific event and only distributed digitally.

Nordost:
https://discogs.librosgratis.biz/release/23482958-Nordost-Nihonkokumin-Only-Set-Yurifest0408/history#latest

Again, same story, except this entire label that this DJ mix borrows their tracks from, https://discogs.librosgratis.biz/release/31407275-Sound-Advice-Presents-dj101/history#latest

Also same story. These were submitted by the DJ himself, distributed via mega.nz, and features a variety of tracks from a variety of time periods and different labels, some of which also defunct.

https://discogs.librosgratis.biz/release/11753338-DJMix/history#latest

I submitted these many years ago, but it is again the same story. Wide variety of tracks from many different (often defunct) labels. The reason I submitted these back in the day was because they were distributed on the artists' websites themselves, but that's no different than distributing it on soundcloud or some other barrier-free ing site.

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Some votes would be appreciated. I'm certain these are not eligible, and it seemed obvious to me at a glance so I didn't think to start a thread for them, but the commenters have a point in that they'd have to research this as well so, here's a breakdown. More effort than I'd like to put in removing bedroom DJ mixes but oh well haha.
There are probably also many more submissions by mossss that are like this, but I didn't dig too deep into mossss' submissions (there's 20.000 submissions lol).
I also left any DJ mixes alone that only used material by the DJ themselves, as that is fair game as far as the official part goes.

Tagging the people who commented:
GentleSenator

Hi, and thank you for opening this thread.

Nullifidian
as nik has ruled here: https://discogs.librosgratis.biz/forum/thread/392358#3637646

Even though the ruling never made it to the guidelines, yes, that's what we generally refer to in these circumstances.

Let's wait for a round of opinions; if there is agreement and all or part of the releases in question are deemed as unofficial, therefore ineligible, they should go.

Nullifidian
I didn't dig too deep into mossss' submissions

That's a task no one in their right mind would deliberately undertake.

I'm all for removing these.

We keep unofficial releases on physical formats, but we remove them on digital, RSG §6.5.4. The releases in question are generally things that would be at least "Partially Unofficial" by the correct use of that tag - things that have a few of the artist's tracks but also a bunch of unlicensed tracks. I would keep a physical "Partially Unofficial" release but I would definitely push for removing a digital one.

hbent
I'm all for removing these.

We keep unofficial releases on physical formats, but we remove them on digital, RSG §6.5.4. The releases in question are generally things that would be at least "Partially Unofficial" by the correct use of that tag - things that have a few of the artist's tracks but also a bunch of unlicensed tracks. I would keep a physical "Partially Unofficial" release but I would definitely push for removing a digital one.

+1

Thanks for the thread.

hbent
The releases in question are generally things that would be at least "Partially Unofficial" by the correct use of that tag - things that have a few of the artist's tracks but also a bunch of unlicensed tracks.

I would say that this only relates to the mega_cursed mixes from the list of mixes I put up for removal, and even then it's usually one or two tracks out of 20 tracks in each mix so it's questionable haha.

Either way thank you for chiming in as well.

hbent
I'm all for removing these.

+1 over and over again!

i get confused with the bootleg, counterfeit, unlicensed, illegal etc. = Unofficial
if i copy 16 of my favorite tracks from my Records i own (licensed), using say WMP, Audacity, WinRAR converter to "Bedroom Mix" .wav files & them to Napster and Facebook and call myself DJ Chimborazo
is that what we are talking about?
and if i burn a few CD-R for friends?
makes sense my sh*t is ineligible for the DB
i feel like i'm still missing something
it must be a 'digital' thing